Kai Early Relationship
Details of Kai and Greg's early relationship that didn't fit on Kai's main article.
**During the events in this article, Kai did not yet identify as a trans man. The writing in this article will reflect Kai's current name and pronouns, but images, quotes, and videos will not
DiscoveryShane Dawson uploaded the video of Greg kissing Shane. The video was released August 6, 2011, so Kai would have been 16 at the time.
Later that year, when Greg began having relationship issues with his then fiance, Kai began fangirl tweeting him almost daily for a few months until Greg eventually contacted him.
On October 21st, Kai tweeted a list of 6 celebrities and YouTube personalities he would marry. Onision was number 3. The next day Greg replied to him, "thats sweet of you to say~". He replied, "@Onision :D thank you for replying! That made my day :)" This was most likely their first conversation. (It was very common for Greg to respond with short tweets to fans at the time.) Kai tweeted at him 3 more times until he began to start telling Greg he loved him over Twitter. October 29, 2011: "@Onision I will always love you. No matter what." November 13, 2011: "I wanted to chat with @Onision but it won't let me log in on my phone :((( I love you Greg!" This was most likely about a Live Stream he had on his YouTube channel with his viewers.
On December 14, 2011, Greg announced one of his break-ups with Shiloh through Twitter. He apologized for not listening to everyone that told him not to get back together with her. Kai replied, "@Onision you shouldn't be apologizing. It shouldn't be a bad thing that you have such a big heart. Don't ever change. I love you <3". "@Onision I love you. Stay strong. I'm always here for you if you need someone." On December 20th, Kai asks Greg to Skype: "@Onision ugh, I just love you :) haha. I wanna Skype sometime!" When Greg suggested his fans go vegetarian for their new years resolution, Kai replied "exactly what I'm doing." He tweeted Greg a total of 20 times in December 2011.
January 1, 2012: "My #2012 wish is for @Onision to be a big part of my year." Kai then tweeted a screen shot of her phone, revealing an image of Greg was her phone background. "I think @Onision should get on some form of chat so that I can chat with him :D" He tweeted at Greg a total of 5 times that day. On the 3rd, Greg replied a second time. His tweet was almost identical to his first one.
Kai tweeted at Greg 27 times in January. On January 9th Kai was worried about not tweeting him, "I haven't tweeted @Onision in like two days :(". He tweeted Greg twice the day before. By this time, they were not talking yet. Jan 12: "@Onision sometimes I feel like I miss you even though we've never met or talked. It's odd. :/" (Source)
The nearly daily tweets ended on February 15th. This "Taylor" Twitter account was eventually deleted and was replaced by LaineyBot.
At some point during Kai's fan-girl tweeting, Greg followed him on twitter and they began casually talking over text.Source) It is believed this conversation shows that Kai would watch Greg's Twitter feed and wait for him to tweet so that when he tweets at Greg, he would be more likely to see it.
On February 1, 2012, Greg and Shiloh break-up for the last time.
The next screen shot is Greg's first direct message to Kai on February 12, 2012. He asks "You really think you're my soulmate?" "If so... what makes you feel this way?". This was most likely a reply to a short Twitter conversation they had that same day. He tweets, "Soulmate... where are you?" Kai replied "here." (Source) When talking about this moment in 2015, Greg says "I was already following this girl on twitter and I think we texted a few times prior, so it was extra meaningful to me." ($ource)
The next screen shot was Kai and Greg's first text conversation, which is not dated. We can see Greg flirting with him, telling Kai he would hug him the whole time when he got to Washington to keep him warm because Kai had never been exposed to cold weather before. (Source) This shows they were planning on meeting up early on.
The last 3 screen shots were conversations with Kai's friend. The earliest was dated February 13, 2012. In it, Kai says he "needs Gregory". Kai and his friend joke about kidnapping him and the friend's boyfriend to spend time with them in romantic Paris. (Source) The next day is when the next screen shot takes place. In it, Kai questions if Greg loves him and wishes Greg would just tell him. (Source) The last was dated February 23, 2012. Kai says Greg told him he wants to avoid Kai because he doesn't want to risk falling for him. Kai is confused by his mixed messages. The next day, Kai tells his friend to call him and that he has a lot to tell her. (Source)
Greg and Kai began privately dating on February 27, 2012. (Source) Kai was 17 and Greg was 26 at this time. Greg now says Kai had originally lied about his age, claiming to be 18 when they began talking. ($ource)
Ex-Friend, Secret Marriage
A week after their secret marriage, an angry ex-friend of Kai's went to Tumblr to reveal what has been going on between Greg and Kai. The friend later posted screen shots of her Skype conversations with Kai to back up her claims.
According to Kai's ex-friend, Kai and Greg began talking after Greg noticed the immense amounts of tweets Kai sent him. They began talking over Skype and began dating a week after he and Shiloh were over. Greg rented a home so that he could be near Kai. He moved back to Washington because they decided they should not see each other for 4 to 5 months until Kai starts college. When he began college, they rented an apartment and he planned to finish his semester, then move back to Washington in December. The ex-friend claims at the time of writing her blog post, Kai's parents did not know he was married to Greg and living with him. The family believed Kai was living in his college dorm. They also did not know he was planning on moving back to Washington with Greg and that he planned to travel around the world with Greg on Digitour while taking online classes. They also did not know that Kai and Greg legally changed their last names.
The ex-friend goes on to explain issues she's been having with Kai over lies he's told and his struggle to balance friends and his new found internet popularity. She also mentions that she believes Kai is suffering from an eating disorder. (Source)
According to the Skype chat logs, it appears that Greg and Kai decided to take time apart because Kai's dad did not agree with their relationship. Kai complains that his father says it's illegal, but Greg is speaking to his lawyer to make sure it is legal. Kai says he couldn't go back to Greg's place (most likely the house Greg rented) because his parents would not let him. (Source) Kai also talks about how Greg was asked to host DigiTour. (Admin note: Greg never toured with DigiTour and there are no online records of him ever being on the official 2012 line-up.) Kai says he worked everything out (college) so that he could travel with Greg. He says it's a big opportunity for Greg, but his parents will kill him. In the chat, Kai announces he will be married in 16 days and that his parents know nothing about it. He says they will have a wedding in the summer of 2013. He also announces he and Greg will be moving back to Washington in December. (Source) Kai also spoke about Adrienne, complaining that she only was with Greg for 2 to 3 days compared to the months he had spent with Greg. He says Greg had never done any of the things Adrienne spoke about to him. (Source)
In another group of chat logs, Kai talks about his weight loss. He talks about never feeling satisfied, even though he's been reaching his goals. The friend explains to him that it sounds like the beginning of an eating disorder. He says that he hasn't eaten over 1,000 calories in a long time and that day he had only eaten 50. Kai talks about feeling guilty that she's not "the best" for Greg. He says he feel inferior. (Source) At the time, Kai spoke a lot about her weight loss and goals on Twitter. He also would occasionally express how unhappy he was and tweet about crying. (Source) Some followers became increasingly worried that he might have been in the beginning stages of an eating disorder. It was also found that he submitted a photo of his collar bones to a thinspo blog. He would also post picture of himself under the "thinspo" tag. Worried followers tried to reach out to him, but he always denied ever having a problem.
In a 2015 YouNow live-stream, Kai confirmed that this individual was a friend that revealed his secrets.
|Pre-YouTube Era||Julia • Christina • Shiree • Tashina • Tanya • Minor Exes|
|Skye Era (2005 - 2010)||Skye - Alimony|
|Shiloh Era (2010 - 2012)||Shiloh - Shiloh Forgot Me • Shiloh Threatened Me • The Truth (Video) • Rogue • Sepsis|
|Lainey Solo Era (2012 - 2016)||Lainey - Snail Mail Stalker|
|"Trinity" Era (2016 - ongoing)||Billie - Cuddlegate • The Trinity • Basementgate|