Vix

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Vix was an online friend of Greg's in 2017 who turned out to be a troll.

**During the events in this article, Kai went by the nicknames "Lainey" or "Lain" and did not yet identify as a trans man. The writing in this article will reflect Kai's current name and pronouns, but images, quotes, and videos will not.

Friendship End

On July 17, 2017, Greg began tweeting about being upset about a fight he had and losing a friend. He explains he met an amazing girl and he knew they could be great friends and make videos together, but her boyfriend freaked out. He says their relationship would have been professional, but her boyfriend decided they can't be friends. He says she is one of the coolest people he's ever talked to and that he's heartbroken. Greg tweeted "Your significant other is there to love you, not control you." (Source) When Greg made a poll asking what his followers think of guys who tell their girlfriends who they can and can't be friends with, a twitter user replied with a screen shot from a public twitter fight Greg had with his spouse Kai where Greg was angry at Kai for tweeting about someone who disliked Greg, saying Kai was not loyal. Greg replied he was wrong for that and he has since made fun of himself for that. (Source)

"A Controlling Boyfriend Ended My Friendship"

The next day, Greg uploaded the video "A Controlling Boyfriend Ended My Friendship". In the video, Greg says is bummed out and he woke up really sore, like there is a bleeding wound inside him. He explains he made a female friend and he thought everything was fine. They never talked about any relationship stuff, just friendship. To prove this he reads out their last messages before he was blocked. He says they were talking about Super Smash Brothers. She says she lacks the beautiful voice of Jigglypuff and he implied her voice was better than Jigglypuff. He says she told him because her boyfriend has a history of people betraying him, she's not allowed to text Greg anymore.

Greg says he and this friend would text back and forth "like crazy." They talk about anime, video games, life goals, etc. He says this was a big deal to him because he doesn't have a lot of friends. He says he felt this person was different because they made him laugh and was always kind to him. Greg says Kai would read all of Greg's texts with females, but Kai said his texts with this person were too boring to read, which proves their conversations were tame. He says if Kai, one of the most high anxiety people he's ever met, is fine with him talking to this person, then how mental does this guy have to be to get his girlfriend to block him after talking about Jigglypuff? Greg says this may seem pathetic, but he's not used to losing friends for no reason. He says he feels more sad and alone than before he had this friend.

Greg brings up the fight he had with Kai that was mention previously and he says he was being stupid. Greg says he had no problem with his friend's boyfriend, but he still took action because he made things perverted. Guys and girls are allowed to be friends. He says he planned on having this girl in Onision videos. He points out he's had a lot of women in his videos who he only had a professional relationship with. He says if you're worried about age, this girl was in her mid 20's.

Greg says he talked to Kai about this situation and Kai told him he has tons of guys he talks to on a regular basis over the phone. Greg says Kai's allowed to talk to however many guys he wants to because they have trust in their relationships. Greg tells his viewers if they're with someone who doesn't allow them to have friends or friends of a specific gender, then they're likely with someone who is controlling you. He says trust and love go hand and hand. If you don't trust someone to text someone, that's not a good relationship. Greg says Kai goes through his texts because he has nothing to fear. He says love isn't blind, you have to prove it. Trust is earned. He says this person said hanging out with Greg, watching anime, playing video games, and being in his videos sounded amazing, but the boyfriend took that away. He tells the person "I miss you dude." ($ource)

Viewers speculated on who the friend might have been. Some even concluded this must have been fabricated drama due to the fact Greg was being so vague about who he was talking about, which is not usually the case for him. Some viewers speculated the friend was his Patreon discord mod Vix. At that point, Vix had been a part of Greg's Patreon discord for about two months. At this time, Greg created videos with his discord Patreons through voice and image/text chat and would upload them to Youtube, so viewers outside of his Patreon were aware of Vix. Some even noted he seemed to prefer speaking to Vix over other Patreons.

After uploading the video, Greg continued to tweet about being sad, even saying he felt like he was going to have a panic attack. (Source) He also tweeted an email from this friend. In the email, she said she feels lonely because her boyfriend manipulates her into ending her friendships with guys. She says she's been with her boyfriend for 9 years and she is happy with him, but she feels suffocated. He doesn't trust her and accuses her of cheating. (Source) Greg also tweeted, "I love that you love anime." Kai replied, "ok but I don't." It was well known that Kai did not watch anime, so it seemed he was still talking about his friend. Some took this as a sign Greg had more feelings for this friend than he lead on due to the use of the word "anime". It was speculated whenever Greg and Billie were separated, they would tweet about anime as code to secretly express affection toward one another. (Source)

For the next few weeks, Greg continued to bring up Vix on his Younow streams. On his August 3rd stream, Greg mentioned Vix re-joined his Patreon server. She left a frowny face, then left the server. (Source) By this point, it was confirmed the friend was Vix. Greg may have confirmed this himself on his streams, but none of his streams from this time have been archived.

Troll Reveal (Vixmas)

On August 17, 2017, a member of the gossip imageboard lolcow discovered Vix had been active in a lolcow discord server back in June 2017. (Source) To some, this was confirmation Vix was a lolcow user (aka a "farmer") trolling Greg while others brushed it off.

It seemed Greg still thought highly of Vix by December 13th. He visited her Younow stream and commented, "Yeah it's Greg. Just saying hi! Bye :P" (Source)

Because lolcow experienced downtime due to maintenance in December 2017, a second imageboard was implemented called "tempcow". Tempcow was planned to be terminated after maintenance. Because of this, the threads there were more fast paced and chaotic. Vix took this opportunity to confirm she was a troll by dumping screen shots of her interactions with Greg onto the board. Many who reads the messages believed Greg was interested in dating Vix and some accused Greg of emotionally cheating with Vix. Board members dubbed this time period as "Vixmas". After tempcow's deletion, most of Vix's posts were not archived, but many of her screen shots were.

• Vix Greg Screen Shots 1
• Vix Greg Screen Shots 2

On December 14th, Vix went live on Younow to discuss trolling Greg. (Only short clips from this stream were archived.) She says at first she joined his Discord voice chat to troll and laugh at it, but Greg ended up picking her out by voice. She says she loves internet drama. She says her boyfriend would have not wanted her to go visit Greg. She asks why anyone would want to go there. (Source)

On December 15th, Kai was streaming when viewers were telling him to read the leaked conversations between Vix and Greg. After ending the stream, Kai returned and started a second stream. On the second stream, Kai says he doesn't understand why people are freaking out about it. He says every screen shot she released were like "it's cool being friends, I want to play video games with you", but everyone is saying Greg is emotionally cheating on Kai with Vix. Kai says everyone told him to guest Vix on his last livestream, but he wouldn't have that conversation live. He says all of Vix's "dirt" is tame and that's not how Greg flirts. Kai says people just want their 5 seconds of attention. He says he doesn't care about any of their texts, he's just annoying everyone's harassing him over it. He had to block 40 people. (Source)

On December 17th, Vix streamed on Younow again. Vix admits she was a premeditated troll and explains she always loved internet drama and following the worst people on the internet. She said she had no intentions of a legitimate friendship. She believes Greg is not capable of having a real friendship. Vix says Greg's conversations with her were enough to make her boyfriend uncomfortable. She says the messages speak for themselves. She says Greg rated her a 9.8 in one of his videos. Vix says she was not paying to get into the discord. Vix says when Greg came into her last Younow it gave her anxiety. She says he followers her on twitter so he must have known about the stream from there. Someone asked why she released the screen shots. She said she's been holding onto them since the summer and didn't see the point of holding onto them. She says she would have to get stoned to tolerate talking to Greg and his Patreons on Discord voice chat. She said she was just being herself in the discord. Vix says she's 27 years old and she believes it worked in her favor because Greg at the time was trying to prove he was friends with people in their 20's. Vix said she was willing to go to the house. Vix says Kai needs a friend but talking to him is like pulling teeth. She says in the Erin screenshots that recently came out, you can tell Kai only wanted to talk to her when he wanted to complained and when Erin wanted to talk, Kai would ignore her. (Source)

On December 17th, Vix leaked conversations she had with Kai:

• Vix Kai Screen Shots 1
• Vix Kai Screen Shots 2

January - G reacts to Vix appearance - (Source)