Sarah

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Greg, Kai, and Sarah in 2016

Sarah was a long time teenage friend of Kai's who eventually had an on and off sexual relationship with Greg and Kai in 2019. Sarah briefly dated Greg in the summer of 2019.

PLEASE NOTE: Greg has multiple versions of events, so there may be multiple versions of his side of some situations. The most notable shifts in his versions of his events are his January 2020 to mid 2020 videos and interviews vs mid 2020 to present videos and interviews. (This will be relevant when future parts of the article are published.)

**During some of the events in this article, Kai went by the nicknames "Lainey" or "Lain" and did not yet identify as a trans man. The writing in this article will reflect Kai's current name and pronouns, but images, quotes, and videos may not.

Just A Fan

According to Sarah, at age 11 or 12, she found Greg's videos through Youtube's recommendations. She says the topics he covered like self harm and positivity really spoke to her. She related to a lot of the questions he answered in videos such as what to do when your mom is mean to you or what to do if boys are mean to you in school. She felt like it was cool that an older guy understood the issues she was going through. She said she was in a really bad place in her personal life when she found his channels. Sarah says Greg's videos influenced a lot of her opinions at the time. (Source)

Sarah says when Greg introduced Kai to his audience in 2012, she became more of a fan of Kai's than Greg. (Source) At this point, Kai was active on Tumblr and Twitter and gained fans through those platforms and his appearances in Greg's videos. Kai refused to open his own Youtube channel at this point.

Sarah says she developed a crush on Greg and Kai at age 13. (Source)

Sarah says the first time she contacted Greg was at age 13. She emailed him about not being able to log into his Onision Forums. He answered her with advice on how to get in. She says they did not have a personal conversation at that point. Sarah says she also began Tweeting at Greg a few times around this time. (Source)

Friendship With Kai

Sarah says at age 13 she began tweeting at Kai a lot and those Tweets are what got Kai to first notice Sarah. Sarah says most of her tweets were responses to Kai's tweets. For example, if Kai asked Twitter what color he should dye his hair, Sarah would respond. Sarah says Kai began making Sarah his "Woman Crush Wednesday". (Source)

Sarah soon joined a Kik group chat dedicated to Kai's fans. Kai would use the chat to talk to his fans. Regina, a teenage fan turned Kai's online friend, started a friendship with Sarah though this Kik chat. Kai noticed their friendship and asked Regina if Sarah was trustworthy. (Source) Eventually, Kai DM'd Sarah asking how old Sarah was. Sarah told Kai she was 14 and Kai said she looked older. (Source) Kai and Sarah later clarified Kai believed Sarah was older because he believed Sarah was a mom due to the photos Sarah would Tweet of her niece and because Sarah would talk about things like breastfeeding. In a 2020 video, Greg claimed he believed Kai began talking to Sarah because Sarah pretended to be a mom. He says Kai felt like he could relate to Sarah being a mom. (Source)

Sarah says by the time she and Kai became friends, she was in a very dark place in her personal life. A few months prior to talking to Kai for the first time she had wanted to end her own life due to things that had happened to her. She wanted something good to happen and she felt like talking to Kai was that good thing that she got for everything else that was going wrong. She describes herself as quiet and insecure at school and she felt that her friendship to Kai was validating. She felt cool because her idol was talking to her. She felt special for getting attention from Kai and felt like it was meant to be. (Source)

The Three Musketeers

Sarah, Regina, and Kai on a group call, 2015

At age 14, Sarah received a message from Kai stating he was about to delete Kik and gave Sarah his phone number. (Source) Sarah, Regina, and Kai began talking frequently in a group chat and began calling themselves The Three Musketeers. Sarah claims Kai would talk about his sex life with Greg in this group chat. Sarah also claims Kai told her how big Greg's penis was. (Source)

Regina and Sarah claim Kai began exchanging "thirst traps", or lude photos, with them in their group chat. Regina describes the photos as, "sexually suggestive photos in a bra and underwear with cleavage showing." Sarah says she thought it was innocent because Kai was still identifying as a straight women at this point. (Source)

"Thirst Trap" Kai sent to Sarah

In January 2015, Kai tweeted an image he described as a "thirst trap" "curtsey of Sarah." The image featured Kai laying suggestively with a censored bar covering his body. Many viewers believed Kai to be nude in the photo and called him out for sending a nude to a minor. To defend himself, Kai tweeted a version of the photo without the censored bar. The photo was still partially censored with pink scribbles. In the photo, Kai was wearing panties and a low cut tank top. Kai claimed he only sent it to Sarah because he needed Sarah to help his edit the photo. (Source) Kai also defends himself by saying he was wearing a shirt in the photo. (Source)

Sarah says she and Kai became close and would FaceTime all the time and stay up late together. She recalls the night before her sophomore year of high school, they stayed up until 2am talking. She says she did whatever Kai wanted to do because she was such a huge fan and thought it was so cool she was friends with Kai. (Source)

Sarah claims the first time she saw Greg on Facetime was when she was 14. She was FaceTiming Kai and when Greg walked into the room, Kai hung up on Sarah. Kai told Sarah he was worried about Greg knowing he had an online 14 year old friend. Kai soon realized Kai didn't care and since then Greg would sometimes be in the background of the FaceTime calls. Sarah said she didn't talk to Greg at this point because as she became better friends with Kai, she didn't like Greg's personality as much anymore. (Source)

Sarah claims the first time Kai showed a picture of her to Greg, Greg responded, "oh, she's cute." (Source)

Regina also claims in her early Skype calls with Kai, Kai would try to hide her from Greg. (Source)

Flirty Tweets

Anti-Onision Tumblr blogs began to take notice of 20 year old Kai's friendship with a 14 year old fan due to their seemingly flirty public twitter interactions. Kai claims all of these Tweets were banter and he and Sarah were making fun of the Tumblr blogs thinking something was going on. On the other hand, Kai was a well known flirt on Twitter and flirted with many girls publicly on there. Kai says this is how he compliments people. (Source) Greg and Sarah confirmed this was how Kai normally behaved at the time on Twitter during a 2017 livestream. (Source)

• In January 2015, Sarah changed her Twitter name to "Jailbait." Kai admits he used that name with Sarah, but claims it was the internet who came up with the name. (Source)

• January 22, 2015 - Sarah participated in a flirty thread started by Kai and Greg resulting in Kai telling Sarah to go "into the dungeon." Again, Kai and Sarah defended this interaction saying it was just a joke. (Source)

• February 5, 2015 - Kai Tweets at Sarah and Regina "yeah I have a meal for you [smirk emoji]"

• April 23, 2015 - Kai tweeted at Sarah "I'm in love with you"

• Sarah tweets "Cute girls who are 18+ should hmu". Kai promotes the tweet and says "Do this".

• Sarah and Kai began referring to each other as their "girlfriend" on social media. This lead some viewers into believing they were in a relationship. Sarah retweeted a fan defending Sarah and Kai saying it's no one's business how old Sarah is and what her relationship to Kai is.

• Sarah texts a sexual meme with Squidward to Kai. Kai screen shots the meme and posts it to twitter. Kai sets his contact image in his phone for Sarah to the Squidward meme. Sarah finds out when Kai posts a screen shot containing the image. Kai defends himself by saying it was not sexual and says he would have posted it as a Tweet anyway. (Source)

• Kai replies to an image of Sarah saying he thought it was himself for a second. Sarah replies "we're twins af". Kai replies "I'm grooming you nicely." Kai defends himself by saying he was making fun of a Tumblr blog that said he was grooming Sarah and that Sarah was going to be the 2nd wife. Sarah later said she did not know what grooming meant when she exchanged these tweets with Kai. (Source)

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  "Into the dungeon"

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  "Meal for you"

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  Kai in love w Sarah

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  18+ HMU

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  Sarah calls Kai her Girlfriend

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  Dating rumors

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  Squidward Meme

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  Squidward Contact Image

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  "Grooming you nicely"

When Greg commented on the accusation of Kai flirting with Sarah while she was a minor, he said he didn't monitor Kai's social media or see the texts between Kai and Sarah. He says he only saw a meme and it was "fucking stupid." He says he didn't see interest from Kai for Sarah. (Source)

In January 2019, Kai admitted his public Twitter interactions with Sarah were inappropriate and apologized. He maintains he was not flirting, that it was all a joke mostly based on other people believing something was going on between them. He says he did not understand at the time that it was inappropriate because he was very young and uneducated. (Source)

Age 15

In January 2016, Kai and Greg break up for a short period after their first relationship with Billie due to Greg being intimate with Billie behind Kai's back. Sarah claims after Greg and Kai got back together, Greg refused to talk about the situation with Kai. Greg would tell Kai, "move on or divorce me. I don't want to talk about this. I don't care if your feelings are hurt." So, Kai turned to Sarah for emotional support. Sarah says she would let Kai talk about whatever he wanted however long he wanted all day. She would try to sit there and help him. (Source)

The dynamic of Sarah filling in as emotional support for Kai when Greg did not want to fill that role became a prominent part of their relationship. It was so prevalent, the drama image board lolcow referred to Sarah by the nickname "Tissue" for years.

Greg has also referenced and spoken about this dynamic in videos. One example is in a 2016 video. He explains, "as some of you may know, my wife and I have had moments where we aren't necessarily on great terms on each other and in those moments my wife sometimes needs a friend to talk to. Queue: Sarah." (Source)

Sarah claims because of this they became super close and Kai eventually confessed he like her. Sarah says Kai was aware she was into women. Sarah says she didn't say she liked Kai outright, but made a tweet about her feelings for him. Sarah claims Kai asked who the Tweet was about. Sarah said him, and Kai said he felt the same. (Source)

Sarah claims they began speaking romantically. She claims they would play 20 questions, asking if she was submissive, dominant, or a switch. Sarah now says looking back she was only 15 and didn't know about any of that. (Source)

Sarah also claims she sent at least one topless photo to Kai at age 15. (Source) Kai has never publicly defended himself against this claims, but Greg has spoken about it in 2020. Greg claims Kai would never exchanged photos with Sarah because Kai isn't into porn, except for gifs of men kissing guys on Kai's tumblr. (Source)

While Kai had a tumblr, he was known to re-blog and like erotic, nude, and phonographic images of women. This began years before Kai came out publicly as bisexual. Greg was well aware of this and at in 2016 he Tweeted a screen shot of Kai re-blogging an erotic photo of two women with the caption, "I'm married to the coolest human." (Source)

Sarah claims in February 2016, Kai was upset one night about the Billie situation and Greg reassured Kai by telling him it was ok and they could just wait for Sarah to turn 18. "Why don't we just wait for Sarah?" Sarah says due to this, she believed they were going to be in a relationship. (Source) At this point, Sarah was 15, Kai was 21, and Greg was 30.

When Greg was asked about this conversation during an interview, he responded by asking if Sarah provided proof of that being said. When the interviewer said no, Greg said, "well then she's a fucking idiot." When the interviewer said he believed it was verbal Greg responded, "Yeah, she's a fucking idiot." (Source)

Around June 2016, Kai and Greg were back together with Billie. Sarah claims talk of her potentially being in a relationship with Kai ended when Kai got back together with Billie. (Source)

First Visit

Sarah says Greg and Kai began planning Sarah's first visit at age 15.