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Greg, Kai, and Sarah in 2016
Sarah was a long time teenage friend of Kai's who eventually had an on and off sexual relationship with Greg and Kai in 2019. Sarah briefly dated Greg in the summer of 2019.

PLEASE NOTE: Greg has multiple versions of events, so there may be multiple versions of his side of some situations. The most notable shifts in his versions of his events are his January 2020 to mid 2020 videos and interviews vs mid 2020 to present videos and interviews. These will be boxed off to avoid confusion on the timeline. (This will be relevant when future parts of the article are published.)

**During some of the events in this article, Kai went by the nicknames "Lainey" or "Lain" and did not yet identify as a trans man. The writing in this article will reflect Kai's current name and pronouns, but images, quotes, and videos may not.

Just A Fan

According to Sarah, at age 11 or 12, she found Greg's videos through Youtube's recommendations. She says the topics he covered like self harm and positivity really spoke to her. She related to a lot of the questions he answered in videos such as what to do when your mom is mean to you or what to do if boys are mean to you in school. She felt like it was cool that an older guy understood the issues she was going through. She said she was in a really bad place in her personal life when she found his channels. Sarah says Greg's videos influenced a lot of her opinions at the time. (Source)

Sarah says when Greg introduced Kai to his audience in 2012, she became more of a fan of Kai's than Greg. (Source) At this point, Kai was active on Tumblr and Twitter and gained fans through those platforms and his appearances in Greg's videos. Kai refused to open his own Youtube channel at this point.

Sarah says she developed a crush on Greg and Kai at age 13. (Source)

Sarah says the first time she contacted Greg was at age 13. She emailed him about not being able to log into his Onision Forums. He answered her with advice on how to get in. She says they did not have a personal conversation at that point. Sarah says she also began Tweeting at Greg a few times around this time. (Source)

Online Friendship With Kai

Sarah says at age 13 she began tweeting at Kai a lot and those Tweets are what got Kai to first notice Sarah. Sarah says most of her tweets were responses to Kai's tweets. For example, if Kai asked Twitter what color he should dye his hair, Sarah would respond. Sarah says Kai began making Sarah his "Woman Crush Wednesday". (Source)

Sarah soon joined a Kik group chat dedicated to Kai's fans. Kai would use the chat to talk to his fans. Regina, a teenage fan turned Kai's online friend, started a friendship with Sarah though this Kik chat. Kai noticed their friendship and asked Regina if Sarah was trustworthy. (Source) Eventually, Kai DM'd Sarah asking how old Sarah was. Sarah told Kai she was 14 and Kai said she looked older. (Source) Kai and Sarah later clarified Kai believed Sarah was older because he believed Sarah was a mom due to the photos Sarah would Tweet of her niece and because Sarah would talk about things like breastfeeding. In a 2020 video, Greg claimed he believed Kai began talking to Sarah because Sarah pretended to be a mom. He says Kai felt like he could relate to Sarah being a mom. (Source)

Sarah says by the time she and Kai became friends, she was in a very dark place in her personal life. A few months prior to talking to Kai for the first time she had wanted to end her own life due to things that had happened to her. She wanted something good to happen and she felt like talking to Kai was that good thing that she got for everything else that was going wrong. She describes herself as quiet and insecure at school and she felt that her friendship to Kai was validating. She felt cool because her idol was talking to her. She felt special for getting attention from Kai and felt like it was meant to be. (Source)

The Three Musketeers

Sarah, Regina, and Kai on a group call, 2015
At age 14, Sarah received a message from Kai stating he was about to delete Kik and gave Sarah his phone number. (Source) Sarah, Regina, and Kai began talking frequently in a group chat and began calling themselves The Three Musketeers. Sarah claims Kai would talk about his sex life with Greg in this group chat. Sarah also claims Kai told her how big Greg's penis was. (Source)

Regina and Sarah claim Kai began exchanging "thirst traps", or lude photos, with them in their group chat. Regina describes the photos as, "sexually suggestive photos in a bra and underwear with cleavage showing." Sarah says she thought it was innocent because Kai was still identifying as a straight women at this point. (Source)

"Thirst Trap" Kai sent to Sarah
In January 2015, Kai tweeted an image he described as a "thirst trap" "curtsey of Sarah." The image featured Kai laying suggestively with a censored bar covering his body. Many viewers believed Kai to be nude in the photo and called him out for sending a nude to a minor. To defend himself, Kai tweeted a version of the photo without the censored bar. The photo was still partially censored with pink scribbles. In the photo, Kai was wearing panties and a low cut tank top. Kai claimed he only sent it to Sarah because he needed Sarah to help his edit the photo. (Source) Kai also defends himself by saying he was wearing a shirt in the photo. (Source)

Sarah says she and Kai became close and would FaceTime all the time and stay up late together. She recalls the night before her sophomore year of high school, they stayed up until 2am talking. She says she did whatever Kai wanted to do because she was such a huge fan and thought it was so cool she was friends with Kai. (Source)

Sarah claims the first time she saw Greg on Facetime was when she was 14. She was FaceTiming Kai and when Greg walked into the room, Kai hung up on Sarah. Kai told Sarah he was worried about Greg knowing he had an online 14 year old friend. Kai soon realized Kai didn't care and since then Greg would sometimes be in the background of the FaceTime calls. Sarah said she didn't talk to Greg at this point because as she became better friends with Kai, she didn't like Greg's personality as much anymore. (Source)

Sarah claims the first time Kai showed a picture of her to Greg, Greg responded, "oh, she's cute." (Source)

Regina also claims in her early Skype calls with Kai, Kai would try to hide her from Greg. (Source)

Flirty Tweets

Anti-Onision Tumblr blogs began to take notice of 20 year old Kai's friendship with a 14 year old fan due to their seemingly flirty public twitter interactions. Kai claims all of these Tweets were banter and he and Sarah were making fun of the Tumblr blogs thinking something was going on. On the other hand, Kai was a well known flirt on Twitter and flirted with many girls publicly on there. Kai says this is how he compliments people. (Source) Greg and Sarah confirmed this was how Kai normally behaved at the time on Twitter during a 2017 livestream. (Source)

  • In January 2015, Sarah changed her Twitter name to "Jailbait." Kai admits he used that name with Sarah, but claims it was the internet who came up with the name. (Source)
  • January 22, 2015 - Sarah participated in a flirty thread started by Kai and Greg resulting in Kai telling Sarah to go "into the dungeon." Again, Kai and Sarah defended this interaction saying it was just a joke. (Source)
  • February 5, 2015 - Kai Tweets at Sarah and Regina "yeah I have a meal for you [smirk emoji]"
  • April 23, 2015 - Kai tweeted at Sarah "I'm in love with you"
  • Sarah tweets "Cute girls who are 18+ should hmu". Kai promotes the tweet and says "Do this".
  • Sarah and Kai began referring to each other as their "girlfriend" on social media. This lead some viewers into believing they were in a relationship. Sarah retweeted a fan defending Sarah and Kai saying it's no one's business how old Sarah is and what her relationship to Kai is.
  • Sarah texts a sexual meme with Squidward to Kai. Kai screen shots the meme and posts it to twitter. Kai sets his contact image in his phone for Sarah to the Squidward meme. Sarah finds out when Kai posts a screen shot containing the image. Kai defends himself by saying it was not sexual and says he would have posted it as a Tweet anyway. (Source)
  • Kai replies to an image of Sarah saying he thought it was himself for a second. Sarah replies "we're twins af". Kai replies "I'm grooming you nicely." Kai defends himself by saying he was making fun of a Tumblr blog that said he was grooming Sarah and that Sarah was going to be the 2nd wife. Sarah later said she did not know what grooming meant when she exchanged these tweets with Kai. (Source)

When Greg commented on the accusation of Kai flirting with Sarah while she was a minor, he said he didn't monitor Kai's social media or see the texts between Kai and Sarah. He says he only saw a meme and it was "fucking stupid." He says he didn't see interest from Kai for Sarah. (Source)

In January 2019, Kai admitted his public Twitter interactions with Sarah were inappropriate and apologized. He maintains he was not flirting, that it was all a joke mostly based on other people believing something was going on between them. He says he did not understand at the time that it was inappropriate because he was very young and uneducated. (Source)

Age 15

In January 2016, Kai and Greg break up for a short period after their first relationship with Billie due to Greg being intimate with Billie behind Kai's back. Sarah claims after Greg and Kai got back together, Greg refused to talk about the situation with Kai. Greg would tell Kai, "move on or divorce me. I don't want to talk about this. I don't care if your feelings are hurt." So, Kai turned to Sarah for emotional support. Sarah says she would let Kai talk about whatever he wanted however long he wanted all day. She would try to sit there and help him. (Source)

The dynamic of Sarah filling in as emotional support for Kai when Greg did not want to fill that role became a prominent part of their relationship. It was so prevalent, the drama image board lolcow referred to Sarah by the nickname "Tissue" for years.

Greg has also referenced and spoken about this dynamic in videos. One example is in a 2016 video. He explains, "as some of you may know, my wife and I have had moments where we aren't necessarily on great terms on each other and in those moments my wife sometimes needs a friend to talk to. Queue: Sarah." (Source)

Sarah claims because of this they became super close and Kai eventually confessed he like her. Sarah says Kai was aware she was into women. Sarah says she didn't say she liked Kai outright, but made a tweet about her feelings for him. Sarah claims Kai asked who the Tweet was about. Sarah said him, and Kai said he felt the same. (Source)

Sarah claims they began speaking romantically. She claims they would play 20 questions, asking if she was submissive, dominant, or a switch. Sarah now says looking back she was only 15 and didn't know about any of that. (Source)

Sarah also claims she sent at least one topless photo to Kai at age 15. (Source) Kai has never publicly defended himself against this claims, but Greg had spoken about it in 2020. Greg claims Kai would never exchanged photos with Sarah because Kai isn't into porn, except for gifs of men kissing guys on Kai's tumblr. (Source)

While Kai had a tumblr, he was known to re-blog and like erotic, nude, and phonographic images of women. This began years before Kai came out publicly as bisexual. Greg was well aware of this and at in 2016 he Tweeted a screen shot of Kai re-blogging an erotic photo of two women with the caption, "I'm married to the coolest human." (Source)

Sarah claims in February 2016, Kai was upset one night about the Billie situation and Greg reassured Kai by telling him it was ok and they could just wait for Sarah to turn 18. "Why don't we just wait for Sarah?" Sarah says due to this, she believed they were going to be in a relationship. (Source) At this point, Sarah was 15, Kai was 21, and Greg was 30.

When Greg was asked about this conversation during an interview, he responded by asking if Sarah provided proof of that being said. When the interviewer said no, Greg said, "well then she's a fucking idiot." When the interviewer said he believed it was verbal Greg responded, "Yeah, she's a fucking idiot." (Source)

Around June 2016, Kai and Greg were back together with Billie. Sarah claims talk of her potentially being in a relationship with Kai ended when Kai got back together with Billie. (Source)

First Visit

Kai tweets about Sarah's first visit
Sarah says Greg and Kai began planning Sarah's first visit when she was 15. Sarah claims Greg and Kai agreed upon waiting for Sarah to turn 16 before she visited because the legal age of consent in Washington is 16. She said when she was told, she agreed with this decision because she believed they just wanted to be safe and to avoid anyone thinking anything is going on. (Source)

Sarah says Kai called her one day crying, asking if she would come to his baby shower in a few months. The baby shower was a month after Sarah's 16th birthday. (Source) Sarah says she asked for her 16th birthday present to be a plane ticket to Washington. (Source)

Sarah claims before she visited, Kai would talk about kissing her after she turned 16 and said it wouldn't be illegal for him to kiss her. (Source)

Sarah says she visited for the first time September 15th to the 21st. She claims Greg was super nice to her during this visit. She claims he would pat her hair and told her, "you're so mature for your age, I feel like I'm hanging out with a 20-year-old." Sarah also claims Kai would put his legs on her and said it was a "weird vibe." (Source) Sarah also claims one of the first things Greg said to her was, "your face looks like how cream soda feels going down your throat." (Source)

Sarah and Greg both acknowledge Sarah was interested in Kai when she began visiting. Kai denies this. Greg says they didn't pursue Sarah during her first visit because Kai was dating Billie. He says Sarah's age gap with Kai was legal, but awkward. (Source)

Theater Incident

During the visit, Kai, Sarah, Greg, and Billie went to the movies together. Kai and Billie were intimate while at the theater and Greg noticed Sarah was visibly upset. Greg claims Sarah was to the point of crying. Sarah says she was weirded out and hurt.

Greg claims he stopped Sarah by the drinking fountains and told her she's not in a relationship, she's just a friend. Sarah claims Greg told her she didn't need to be upset and was emotionally supportive.

Sarah claims after they got back to the house, Greg took her down to the basement and told her the relationship isn't a triangle (referring to Billie, Kai, and Greg's relationship), it's a square because Sarah is very important to Kai. Sarah says this confused her, but apparently Greg meant friendship.

Greg claims he told her there's four of them, they all have a seat at the table, but she's not part of the relationship. He says she seemed to understand at the time. He says there were a lot of misunderstandings, but they were never in a relationship. (Source)

Billie's friend Ayalla also claimed Greg used the "it's not a triangle, not a square" line with her when she visited while Sarah was there. She said she didn't know if the fourth person Greg was referring to was herself or Sarah. (Source)

Internet Backlash

Viewers from gossip sites and blogs became concerned when finding out about Sarah's visit to Greg and Kai's home and believed Greg and Kai or just Kai was trying to start a romantic and/or sexual relationship with her. This was due to a few factors. The first being Kai's history of publicly interacting in a flirty manner with Sarah since Sarah was 14. The next was that Greg and Kai had been public about their search for a third for about a year at that point. Lastly, it was obvious Kai and Greg had waited for Sarah to turn 16 before her first visit due to the age of consent in Washington being 16. 16 being the age of consent in Washington is something Greg mentioned a lot of his channels due to previously being in 2 public relationships with 17-year-olds.

One concerned viewer called Greg and Kai's local police. Kai says they spoke to the police and were told everything was fine. (Source)

Greg responded to the situation in the September 18th video "The Truth About My Spouse (& 16 Year Old Friend)". In the video, Greg exaggerated the internet's concerns, claiming the internet believed he and Kai were recruiting Sarah to be a sex slave. He also claimed these rumors were based on the fact Kai is bisexual, which he says is bi-phobic. He said Kai is thinking about taking legal action because Sarah's private information was released. He says Sarah and Kai's relationship is innocent and asks viewers to back off because Sarah's mother is supportive and is angry at the internet. He says the police officer was also angry because the internet wasted their time when they could be focusing on far more important things. (Source)

First Time Living With Kai & Greg

Sarah was invited to live in Greg and Kai's home due to problems she was having in her home life. Sarah says one night she was crying and texting her best friend, Kai, after something had happened to her. Kai told Sarah he was going to seriously talk to Greg about Sarah moving in. Sarah says before this, Kai would only joke about Sarah moving in. (Source)

Kai says he decided to help Sarah because he had seen several things done to Sarah while she was living at home. He says Sarah's home was not a healthy environment for her. Kai says he knew Sarah also wanted to go to college in Washington, so her living there would help her get Washington state residency to get resident tuition, which is cheaper. Kai says it was beneficial to everyone. (Source)

Kai and Sarah say Kai helped Sarah look into ways to get her out of her home life for a whole year before deciding Sarah should move in. They say the alternatives, such as emancipation, were too complicated. Kai says Sarah's mother was willing to sign over guardianship of Sarah to himself, so that was the easiest option. Kai says Sarah's mother knows Kai and trusts him to take care of Sarah. (Source)

Later on, in 2020, Greg began using the fact that Sarah's mother allowed Sarah to live with himself and Kai as evidence that there was something wrong with Sarah and her own mother wanted nothing to do with her. Greg claims Sarah's mother offered to pay himself and Kai for Sarah's food, but they didn't accept money because they felt they were just helping a friend. (Source)

Sarah claims as she was planning to move, she contacted Kai for information and Kai told her he didn't know what was going on with his relationship, due to issues he was having with Billie and Greg. Sarah says this made her feel brushed off and felt Kai wasn't as serious about her moving as he made it out to be. Sarah claims one day Kai told Sarah he thinks the key to making his relationship with Billie and Greg work was for Sarah to move in to become a "problem solver" because last time Sarah visited, Billie was nicer to Kai. (Source)

Sarah says her mother was fine with her living with Greg and Kai. She says her mother gave her money every month so Sarah could get what she needed while living in Washington. (Source) Sarah's mother signed over power of attorney to Kai in early November 2016. Sarah says this was so that is there was an emergency, Kai and Greg would have rights. Sarah claims Greg joked they would have the right to pull the plug on her. (Source)

Sarah also claims before her second trip to Greg and Kai's home, her mother expressed concern for Sarah saying she believed Greg and Kai used Sarah emotionally. Sarah says she denied this to her mother. (Source) Sarah says at this point her mother was not aware of the sexual stuff she claimed went on between herself and Kai.


There was a lot of confusion about what legal relationship Kai and Sarah had due to differing explanations from Kai Greg, and Sarah throughout the years. The first the public heard was Sarah and Kai saying Kai is Sarah's legal guardian during a February 2017 livestream. In the livestream, Kai explained that Sarah's mother signed over guardianship of Sarah to Kai. Kai claimed it was notarized and he currently had legal guardianship of Sarah. When someone commented they were uncomfortable with a 30 year old man having legal guardianship over a teen, Kai responded that Greg did not have guardianship. (Source)

In 2017, Greg said he and Kai were like foster parents to Sarah and he saw her as a little sister. (Source)

In 2020, Greg described it as just a signed piece of paper that said they could help if there was a medical or legal issue with Sarah. Greg claims it wasn't official because it wasn't notarized. (Source)

Internet Finds Out

Sarah wearing a mask
In the beginning, it seemed Greg, Kai, and Sarah tried to keep the fact that she was living in their home a secret from the internet. She did not appear in any of their videos and her being there was never mentioned on their social media. The internet became aware Sarah was in the home when she posted a Halloween selfie taken in Greg and Kai's bathroom. (Source) After that, she appeared in an Onision video, but wore a mask and asked to be called "Smith." In the video, Greg commented that Sarah trying to hide her identity was stupid and continually called her Sarah throughout the video. (Source)

After that initial masked video, Sarah frequently participated in Greg and Kai's videos. She also appeared in selfies with Greg and Kai on social media. Despite Sarah appearing in videos with Greg and Kai for the next three months, none of them ever provided the internet with an explanation for why she was there. As the months went on, people began to question more and more why she was there for so long and if she was missing school.

Greg later claimed he barely hung out with Sarah while she lived there and he would only play video games with her every other week. This does not seem to be the case, supported by how frequently they made sketches, video game videos, and took selfies together. (Source)

It seems Greg would sometimes play up the controversy Sarah's age brought to his channel, once naming a video "Onision Violates A Teenage Girl (in MGO)". (Source)

Billie and Ayalla

Billie, Greg, Sarah, and Ayalla
While Sarah lived with Greg and Kai, they were still on and off with their girlfriend Billie. At one point, Billie brought her friend Ayalla to the house to stay during her trip. Sarah claims Billie and Ayalla would question why Sarah was living there and that they were confused by the situation. (Source) Billie, Ayalla, and Sarah got along while they were together. Billie describes her relationship with Sarah at the house as good friends. (Source)

Sarah says while she lived at the house, she would mostly have to take care of Kai due to all the relationship drama Kai was going through with Billie and Greg. (Source) Sarah says one day Greg and Kai were debating if they were going to let Billie and Ayalla stay another week or not. They brought Sarah into the bathroom and they told Sarah she was the "decider." Sarah says she didn't give the answer Greg wanted, so he said "why are we asking a 16 year old?" Ayalla confirms she remembers this incident. (Source)

Kai says while Billie and Ayalla were in the home, he was angry at everyone so he wouldn't hang out with them. He would only hang out with Sarah while everyone else hung out downstairs. (Source)

Greg claims whenever Kai had relationship issues with Billie, Sarah would talk crap about Billie and Ayalla. He says maybe she was trying to be a good friend to Kai, but suggests there might be another reason. (Source)

When Sarah was asked if Kai would tattle to Greg when he wanted people removed from the house, Sarah said they all did. "I tattled like a motherfucker." (Source)

Ayalla says she forgives Sarah for telling Greg her personal information because she knows the manipulative tactics Greg uses to get information about people. Ayalla says Sarah was nice to her while she was at the house and Sarah did not seem like a bad person to her. (Source)

Nanny Rumor

While Sarah lived there, a rumor began spreading that she was living there as Greg and Kai's nanny. This rumor persisted as Sarah would continue to visit throughout the years. Kai and Sarah denied this during a 2017 livestream. Kai says they are not paying Sarah and she does not work for them. (Source)

Both Billie and Ayalla have spoken about how much Sarah would clean the house and take care of Greg and Kai's children. Billie says she felt like Sarah was there to clean up and babysit for Greg and Kai. (Source)

Ayalla says she felt Greg and Kai would use both Billie and Sarah as both nannies and maids. Ayalla claims if Sarah was not taking care of the children up to par, they would punish her or threaten her. She claims they would threaten to send her home or take things away from her.

Billie claims Greg did not do any housework and that Kai felt entitled to herself and Sarah helping around the house. She claims if they didn't, Kai would throw a fit, ignore them, or send bland text messages. Billie says it felt it was more like herself and Sarah were expected to help out around the house rather than it being a nice gesture. (Source)

Greg confirmed in an interview that Sarah helped out a lot with the house, but he claimed it was win favor with himself and Kai because she didn't understand nothing was going to happen relationship wise. (Source)

Inappropriate Behavior Accusations

Greg claimed he and Kai always kept their distance from Sarah. The same day Greg uploaded the video claiming this, Sarah said on a livestream she only ever hugged Greg and Kai. Sarah later claimed Greg would only offer to hug her after Kai left the room. When reacting to this statement, Greg said, "apparently I gave someone a hug. Apparently that was a really bad thing, giving someone a hug." (Source)

Sarah claims she cuddled in bed with Kai. Kai claims no one cuddled in bed. (Source)

Ayalla says whenever Greg would made inappropriate comments to Sarah, Sarah would confide in her about it. (Source) Ayalla claims Greg would say suggestive and provocative things, but when he was called out on it, he would claim it was only a joke. Ayalla claims there was an incident where he made an inappropriate comment about Sarah sitting in a massage chair. Sarah confirms she remembers this incident. (Source)

Ayalla claims one day at the house, she and Sarah had a long conversation about Sarah's relationship with Kai. Ayalla claims Sarah had told her at age 15, she had been flirting back and forth with Kai and that they had discussed potentially being in a relationship in the future when Sarah became older to avoid legal issues. (Source)

Kai claims there was no discussion of a potential relationship with Sarah. (Source)

Sarah claims she would sometimes lay in bed with Greg and Kai. She claims Greg would give her little touches here and there and she felt it was creepy. (Source)

Bath Accusations

Sarah claims Kai would ask her to be in the bathroom while he bathed because Kai would bathe with his kids. Sarah would sit and talk to Kai while he was in the bath. Then, Sarah would get the kids out of the bath. Sarah says they never did anything sexual and Kai just wanted someone to be with. She claims Kai was naked in front of her all the time. Sarah also claims Kai would talk to her while she was taking a shower. (Source) Sarah says she thought it was normal. (Source)

Billie claims she once walked in on Kai naked in the bathtub while Sarah sat nearby on a chair. She said it didn't sit right with her because Sarah was underage and she was sitting with someone she clearly had a crush on. She says she told Greg about it and he made a big deal about it and said they weren't going to do that anymore. (Source)

Kai claims all the bath stuff didn't happen and says it's a ridiculous accusation. (Source)

"Dat Booty Tho"

Ayalla, Greg, and Sarah all have spoken about an incident where Sarah was alone in a room laying on a bean bag reading her phone. Billie, Ayalla, and Kai were downstairs. Greg came up the stairs with a box and said "dat booty tho." Sarah claims it was, "mmm dat booty tho." Greg claims it was a condescending "dat booty tho" because it was like she was showing off her butt. Sarah claims she looked back and gave him a look. She claims Greg was like, "what? Are you mad?" She says she was confused and answered, "no."

Greg says no one says "dat booty tho" as a real thing unless you're R&B or hip hop. He says he's not R&B or hip hop, he's a comedian. (Source)

Greg Mean To Sarah

Billie claims after the bath incident, Greg started to become mean to Sarah all the time. Billie speculated Greg might have been trying to show her he didn't like Sarah. (Source)

Sarah also claims Greg was nice to her during her first trip and didn't start being mean to her until what happened with Billie and Ayalla. (Source)

Greg has spoken many times about how mean he was to Sarah while Sarah was underage. He says he would roast her in videos, but he was worse to her off camera. He says he would compare her to Drew Carey and Meg Griffin. He once compared the way he treated Sarah to ragging on an adopted brother. (Source)

Sarah claims Greg made her feel bad about her body and looks. She says one time when she was 16, he made her feel so bad about being a virgin she started crying. (Source) Sarah claims Greg would call her stupid, a cunt, and a dyke. She says she really hated being called "dyke" because she would be called that a lot in high school. She says she found it insulting so he took that and ran with it. She says he made her feel really dumb and ugly. (Source)

During a livestream when asked about why he was mean to Sarah when she was underage, Greg says it was because he didn't want her to like him. He says he didn't like being mean to her, but he didn't want her thinking he was remotely interested. When someone suggested Greg could have not been nice to Sarah without abusing her, he says he doesn't think you can. He says she was already a fan and she wasn't going to get the message if he wasn't mean. When asked why he would assume Sarah would want to be in a relationship with him, he compared the situation to when a 15 year old girl tried to kiss him when he was 18. (Source)

Sarah claimed Greg would be nice to her when no one was looking, but then be meaner when people were around. She says when he was nice, he was touchy. (Source) Sarah says she believed Greg was mean to her because he wouldn't be able to control himself if they had a normal relationship. She claims one time at a Christmas party, he put a piece of cheese in her mouth. She claims he seemed to realize what he had done and said, "I don't want to be doing this with you." (Source)

When Sarah was asked if Kai ever defended Sarah from Greg's name calling and berating, she claimed Kai never did. She claimed Kai would sometimes throw her under the bus to Greg. Sarah says no one is above Greg in Kai's mind. Not even his own children. (Source)

Sarah says the only person who ever got Greg to apologize to her was Billie. When the fact that Billie would defend Sarah from Greg was brought up during a livestream, Kai agreed that Greg was not nice to Sarah while she was underage. (Source) Ayalla also spoke about Billie having to defend Sarah from Greg multiple times during her visit. (Source)

When Sarah was asked if Greg was doing this to control her as a cult-like situation, Sarah agreed and said if she didn't want to do something, Greg would accuse her of lying or tell her to be an adult. He would do whatever he could to get what he wanted. (Source)

Luxy Incident

During one of their breakups with Billie, Greg and Kai began speaking romantically with Luxymoo and planned for her to visit. Sarah's friend, Lane, claims since Kai was broken up with Billie, Sarah believed that this might be her chance at a relationship. Lane claims Sarah was sobbing in a bathtub and texting her when she found out about Luxy because she thought she would be next in line for a relationship. (Source)

When Kai was asked about this situation, he said he wasn't aware Sarah cried over Luxy. He maintains he never entertained the idea of a relationship with Sarah while she was underage. (Source)

Kick Out

Lane claims Sarah would slowly tell her about things she and Kai discussed to test the waters. Lane says Sarah made her promise not to tell anyone about the things she spoke to Kai about and Lane agreed. Lane claims at one point Sarah told her she loved "them." Lane says she didn't know if she was using they/them pronouns for Kai (Kai was using those pronouns at the time) or if Sarah meant both Kai and Greg. (Source)

On February 5, 2017, Kai and Sarah went live on Kai's Younow to talk about drama Kai was having. Lane mistakenly thought Sarah and Kai were talking about her. In response, Lane went live on her own Younow and claimed Sarah had told her she and Kai were almost in a relationship and Greg encouraged it. Lane claimed she had screen shots of Sarah talking about this. In a 2019 interview, Sarah claimed what Lane said was true. (Source)

Sarah texted Lane and messaged her on Tumblr, begging her to deleted all of their conversations and any screen shots she had. Lane was not able to recover the screen shots, but she shared Sarah's recent messages to prove what she was saying was true. (Source)

Greg initially attacked Lane on Twitter, but later tweeted saying he didn't have the full story and Sarah admitted she spoke to Lane. He says Sarah also told him she remembered him saying something about her one day being in a relationship with Kai. Greg said this was confusing because he and Kai made it clear she was there to be a friend. (Source)

"Sarah Is Leaving"
The next day, Greg announced they were sending Sarah home with the video "Sarah Is Leaving." In the video he explained he doesn't see it as them kicking out Sarah. He sees it just as them sending her home. He says it's no one's fault, unless the internet was a person. He said if the internet wasn't weirdly involved, everything would still be fine. Greg wrote text in the video saying Sarah tried to provide proof that she and Kai were planning a relationship, but was not able to supply the text messages since her phone didn't go back that far. Greg says Sarah is 16 and he is 31, so it's creepy. He says Sarah and her friend aren't bad people. He says this is just an awkward situation. He says he doesn't know how many times he needs to say nothing is going to happen. He says they are on good terms with Sarah and they aren't upset with her. (Source)
In November 2020, Greg changed the title of this video to "We Caught Sarah Red-Handed, She Had To Leave" and began describing an alternate version of events when referencing the video. He now claims Lane and Sarah's texts were leaked to Kai and that Kai showed him the texts. He claims the texts revealed Sarah was plotting on getting with himself and Kai. He says Sarah was being creepy and malicious. He claims the texts also said she had feelings for Kai. (Source)

Later that day, Sarah went live on Younow. At different parts of the stream, Kai and Greg separately make appearances. This stream was the first time the public found out Kai had guardianship over Sarah. On the stream, Sarah denied being under the impression she was going to be in a relationship with Kai. She said all she wanted to be was a friend. Sarah says Greg was talking about confusion that happened months ago and no one in the household cares about it anymore. Sarah also denied rumors that Kai and Greg were grooming her. Sarah says the reason they are sending her home was because it was not safe for her to stay anymore because people called the police. She says she never should have been in Greg's videos and she never should have told anyone she was there. At several points during the stream, Sarah cried. She says her life was all figured out in Washington. (Source)

Years later, when later asked about how she was feeling at this time, Sarah said she felt like everything was her fault because she had a crush on Kai. She said in hindsight, she was 16 and confused. Kai, Greg, and some people online were shifting the blame on her, but she never initiated or tried to start anything. She said at the time, people online were telling her she was endangering herself in this situation with Greg and Kai, but she thought she was smart and could handle it. As she grew up, she realized why people were trying to warn her. (Source)

Sarah says while they were going to the airport to send her home, Kai asked if they actually had to let her go. Greg said yes, they can't say she'd going to leave and not actually have her leave. (Source)

Kai said the reason they sent Sarah home was because people were threatening Sarah and threatening his children. People were calling the police and Child Protective Services. (Source)

Sarah later claimed Greg and Kai told her she had to leave their home because it was getting too much for them to handle publicly. (Source)

Ayalla says she was concerned for Sarah after she left, so she contacted Sarah and offered her home to her. Ayalla says her mother is registered to be a foster parent, so if Sarah needed a safe place to stay and couldn't go home she has an option. Ayalla says she believed something was wrong because if Kai and Greg's true intention was to protect Sarah from her home life, why would they send her home immediately after they were accused of having poor intentions. (Source)

Second Time Living With Kai & Greg

Sarah says a few months later, Kai told Sarah Greg said "why don't we take Sarah back?" She went back to live with them, but this time they didn't tell the internet. (Source)

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